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		<title>By: Gampern</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2178</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Highlights (Fútbol de Primera): 
resumendelafecha [dot] com [dot] ar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Highlights (Fútbol de Primera):<br />
resumendelafecha [dot] com [dot] ar</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew and others for the help..looks like I will have to suffice with Boca and River games unless I can spend a ton of money...I better learn Spanish though :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew and others for the help..looks like I will have to suffice with Boca and River games unless I can spend a ton of money&#8230;I better learn Spanish though :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fox Soccer Channel shows one game per week in the US (they usually alternate Boca, River, Boca, River each week unless there is a special circumstance). Also for Copa Libertadores games you need Fox Sports en Espanol. Some areas offer TyC which is the Argentine channel but I know in my area you have to buy a whole Spanish language tier for that one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox Soccer Channel shows one game per week in the US (they usually alternate Boca, River, Boca, River each week unless there is a special circumstance). Also for Copa Libertadores games you need Fox Sports en Espanol. Some areas offer TyC which is the Argentine channel but I know in my area you have to buy a whole Spanish language tier for that one.</p>
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		<title>By: hastaelgolsiempre</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2135</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You won&#039;t find any links to it here, Mat, because I&#039;m in the UK and the legal situation with encouraging people to watch online football isn&#039;t entirely clear. But you might do worse than an online search for &#039;rojadirecta [dot] com&#039;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You won&#8217;t find any links to it here, Mat, because I&#8217;m in the UK and the legal situation with encouraging people to watch online football isn&#8217;t entirely clear. But you might do worse than an online search for &#8216;rojadirecta [dot] com&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the welcome guys..have been reading ur comments and seeing your passion for Racing! ..will keep Racing on the top of my mind as I search on a team in the Primera!! since you guys know so much abt the league I was wondering if there are sites where I can watch the games...or some TV channels for folks in the US??? ... or some sites where I can see highlights..that would be ideal with the amount of time we have these days!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the welcome guys..have been reading ur comments and seeing your passion for Racing! ..will keep Racing on the top of my mind as I search on a team in the Primera!! since you guys know so much abt the league I was wondering if there are sites where I can watch the games&#8230;or some TV channels for folks in the US??? &#8230; or some sites where I can see highlights..that would be ideal with the amount of time we have these days!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2096</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really happy for you Seba! I can truly understand how you must be feeling right now. 

This day will go down as one of those greatest moment in Racing&#039;s long and glorious history. 

VAMOS RACING!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really happy for you Seba! I can truly understand how you must be feeling right now. </p>
<p>This day will go down as one of those greatest moment in Racing&#8217;s long and glorious history. </p>
<p>VAMOS RACING!!!</p>
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		<title>By: hastaelgolsiempre</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2095</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for fielding that one Seba. A full list of ALL the promoted and relegated sides, right down to Primera D / Torneo del Interior is now up on the site (although I&#039;ve been unable to find anything about if any sides have been relegated from the Torneo del Interior. Does this even happen?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for fielding that one Seba. A full list of ALL the promoted and relegated sides, right down to Primera D / Torneo del Interior is now up on the site (although I&#8217;ve been unable to find anything about if any sides have been relegated from the Torneo del Interior. Does this even happen?).</p>
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		<title>By: Seba</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to HEGS, Mat. And listen to Matthew. There&#039;s never a dull moment supporting Racing Club! We are not playing in a proper way to go with our glorious history and our nickname (La Academia) but as I said, never a dull moment! 

Matthew! The pleasure was mine! My surname is García so you can imagine what my nickname was when I was in high school and EL TURCO rocked the first division! By the way...EL TURCO (as I&#039;m sure you know, means TURKISH) but there&#039;s nothing Turkish in a surname which is probably the most common Spanish surname of all. Why did he earn that nickname? Well...he was playing in the streets when he was a boy and he said to a friend of his, asking him to leave the ball: &quot;DEJALAJALAJALA&quot; (&quot;Leave it, leave it, leave it) but of course he should have only said: &quot;DEJALA&quot; once. But he added the rest (JALAJALAJALA (which in English would be written &quot;halah halah halah&quot;) and that&#039;s why they started calling him Turkish (as we wrongly nickname every person that speaks Arabic or comes from the Arab world). Anyway...enough with that random story. 

Regarding promotions and relegations. Without checking the info (off the top of my head). 

RELEGATED FROM 1st division to B Nacional: San Martín de San Juan and Olimpo.

PROMOTED FROM B Nacional to 1st division: San Martín de Tucumán and Godoy Cruz de Mendoza.

RELEGATED FROM B Nacional to B Metropolitana: Almirante Brown, Nueva Chicago (through promoción) and there must be another one there that I&#039;m missing. 

PROMOTED FROM B Metropolitana to B Nacional: 
All Boys and Los Andes (through promoción beating Nueva Chicago)

PROMOTED FROM Argentino A to B Nacional: 
Atlético Tucumán.

Then, in the divisions below, I&#039;ve got no idea!

Andrew, regarding Maxi Moralez, his loan will run until the end of the next Apertura, so he should be staying. 

In other Racing Club news, Blanquiceleste S.A. has been officially kicked out of the club and they have no business going on with the club. It has been reported, they have a debt of 18 million pesos (roughly 6 million US dollars/ 3 million British Pounds) with Racing Club. 

And Juan Manuel Llop has been confirmed as manager for the next Torneo Apertura.

Names will start dancing now. We&#039;ll see if we keep on bringing underachievers with no name or if we get serious for once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to HEGS, Mat. And listen to Matthew. There&#8217;s never a dull moment supporting Racing Club! We are not playing in a proper way to go with our glorious history and our nickname (La Academia) but as I said, never a dull moment! </p>
<p>Matthew! The pleasure was mine! My surname is García so you can imagine what my nickname was when I was in high school and EL TURCO rocked the first division! By the way&#8230;EL TURCO (as I&#8217;m sure you know, means TURKISH) but there&#8217;s nothing Turkish in a surname which is probably the most common Spanish surname of all. Why did he earn that nickname? Well&#8230;he was playing in the streets when he was a boy and he said to a friend of his, asking him to leave the ball: &#8220;DEJALAJALAJALA&#8221; (&#8220;Leave it, leave it, leave it) but of course he should have only said: &#8220;DEJALA&#8221; once. But he added the rest (JALAJALAJALA (which in English would be written &#8220;halah halah halah&#8221;) and that&#8217;s why they started calling him Turkish (as we wrongly nickname every person that speaks Arabic or comes from the Arab world). Anyway&#8230;enough with that random story. </p>
<p>Regarding promotions and relegations. Without checking the info (off the top of my head). </p>
<p>RELEGATED FROM 1st division to B Nacional: San Martín de San Juan and Olimpo.</p>
<p>PROMOTED FROM B Nacional to 1st division: San Martín de Tucumán and Godoy Cruz de Mendoza.</p>
<p>RELEGATED FROM B Nacional to B Metropolitana: Almirante Brown, Nueva Chicago (through promoción) and there must be another one there that I&#8217;m missing. </p>
<p>PROMOTED FROM B Metropolitana to B Nacional:<br />
All Boys and Los Andes (through promoción beating Nueva Chicago)</p>
<p>PROMOTED FROM Argentino A to B Nacional:<br />
Atlético Tucumán.</p>
<p>Then, in the divisions below, I&#8217;ve got no idea!</p>
<p>Andrew, regarding Maxi Moralez, his loan will run until the end of the next Apertura, so he should be staying. </p>
<p>In other Racing Club news, Blanquiceleste S.A. has been officially kicked out of the club and they have no business going on with the club. It has been reported, they have a debt of 18 million pesos (roughly 6 million US dollars/ 3 million British Pounds) with Racing Club. </p>
<p>And Juan Manuel Llop has been confirmed as manager for the next Torneo Apertura.</p>
<p>Names will start dancing now. We&#8217;ll see if we keep on bringing underachievers with no name or if we get serious for once.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2090</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maxi Moralez is on loan from a Russian club, right? Does anyone know if he&#039;s staying in Argentina for the Apertura or if he is going back?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maxi Moralez is on loan from a Russian club, right? Does anyone know if he&#8217;s staying in Argentina for the Apertura or if he is going back?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2008/06/30/safe-at-last/#comment-2089</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam, can you do a resume of whose up and down in all divisions?
I know Talleres stayed in B, but I thought I heard something about them having a deduction of points for next season, is this correct and if so, why?
The pic of Cervera is quite scary on the Flikr group!
He&#039;s a talented player sadly past his best... 
The fate of Nueva Chicago should be a warning to Barras Bravas of any club. They&#039;re in the third division now because of last year&#039;s crowd violence and points deduction. They&#039;re quite a big club, but may never come back to the top flight...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, can you do a resume of whose up and down in all divisions?<br />
I know Talleres stayed in B, but I thought I heard something about them having a deduction of points for next season, is this correct and if so, why?<br />
The pic of Cervera is quite scary on the Flikr group!<br />
He&#8217;s a talented player sadly past his best&#8230;<br />
The fate of Nueva Chicago should be a warning to Barras Bravas of any club. They&#8217;re in the third division now because of last year&#8217;s crowd violence and points deduction. They&#8217;re quite a big club, but may never come back to the top flight&#8230;</p>
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