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	<title>Comments on: Copa Sudamericana semi-final first leg: Argentinos 1 &#8211; 1 Estudiantes</title>
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		<title>By: Seba</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcelo Araujo is doing some &quot;work&quot; for Canal 9 or some dodgy cable channels every now and then. You are right, Matt, he is a hated figure and not a good personality. 

I found him to be really annoying. What I hated was that he knew every nickname of every River or Boca player and then he didn&#039;t even know the surnames of the players at other clubs. Talk about biased...

I don&#039;t like Vignolo either. For the sake of bringing excitement into his commentaries, he shouts when it&#039;s a throw-in near midfield. And he also repeats the same sentence ad-eternum. For instance...Messi gets the ball near midfield and starts one of his classic runs and Vignolo would go: &quot;la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messiiiiiiiiiiii....&quot;

Annoying like no other commentary in the world. 

And then you have Bambino Pons who has a great voice but keeps on saying how you should take advantage of this and that situation and how you shouldn&#039;t give the ball back to the other team when they played it out on purpose so one of your players could get treatment and how you should huff the ball instead of playing it on the ground and he criticizes whoever doesn&#039;t do that. But to top it, he sings those ridiculous songs without even thinking what he&#039;s doing. 

People somehow enjoy that. I keep on shaking my head in disbelief.

As for Marcela Mora y Araujo. I don&#039;t know anything about her other than the fact that she writes for The Guardian. That composed surname of hers is the name of a big consulting group here in Argentina. That company is in charge of running polls before the elections and stuff like that. 

There aren&#039;t many Mora y Araujo around, so I would imagine there is a connection there...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcelo Araujo is doing some &#8220;work&#8221; for Canal 9 or some dodgy cable channels every now and then. You are right, Matt, he is a hated figure and not a good personality. </p>
<p>I found him to be really annoying. What I hated was that he knew every nickname of every River or Boca player and then he didn&#8217;t even know the surnames of the players at other clubs. Talk about biased&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like Vignolo either. For the sake of bringing excitement into his commentaries, he shouts when it&#8217;s a throw-in near midfield. And he also repeats the same sentence ad-eternum. For instance&#8230;Messi gets the ball near midfield and starts one of his classic runs and Vignolo would go: &#8220;la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messi, la tiene Messiiiiiiiiiiii&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Annoying like no other commentary in the world. </p>
<p>And then you have Bambino Pons who has a great voice but keeps on saying how you should take advantage of this and that situation and how you shouldn&#8217;t give the ball back to the other team when they played it out on purpose so one of your players could get treatment and how you should huff the ball instead of playing it on the ground and he criticizes whoever doesn&#8217;t do that. But to top it, he sings those ridiculous songs without even thinking what he&#8217;s doing. </p>
<p>People somehow enjoy that. I keep on shaking my head in disbelief.</p>
<p>As for Marcela Mora y Araujo. I don&#8217;t know anything about her other than the fact that she writes for The Guardian. That composed surname of hers is the name of a big consulting group here in Argentina. That company is in charge of running polls before the elections and stuff like that. </p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t many Mora y Araujo around, so I would imagine there is a connection there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hastaelgolsiempre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hastaelgolsiempre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t say much about the commentators myself, Matthew, but I&#039;ve looked into Marcela Mora y Araujo a little bit myself and as far as I&#039;m aware they&#039;re not relation.

She has read HEGS in the past though, so if she&#039;s still doing so, perhaps she could let us know...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say much about the commentators myself, Matthew, but I&#8217;ve looked into Marcela Mora y Araujo a little bit myself and as far as I&#8217;m aware they&#8217;re not relation.</p>
<p>She has read HEGS in the past though, so if she&#8217;s still doing so, perhaps she could let us know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talking of commentators, whatever happened to Marcelo Araujo? He was the top commentator for TyC for years, then he suddenly disappeared and was replaced by Vignolo. Araujo always entertained me, especially when he used to slip into English (&#039;thank you&#039; and &#039;shadddap!&#039;) and if someone missed an easy chance he would go into mock crying, Abreu being a regular target. 
But I gather he&#039;s not such a nice personality either, and is hated by many Argentines. 
Is the English speaking journalist Marcela Araujo his daughter? 

When I was in my teens, in between Screensport coverage I used to improve my Spanish by listening to Radio Nacional on shortwave, with Gustavo Vergara and Mario Trucco. I think Vergara is still commentating on radio?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking of commentators, whatever happened to Marcelo Araujo? He was the top commentator for TyC for years, then he suddenly disappeared and was replaced by Vignolo. Araujo always entertained me, especially when he used to slip into English (&#8216;thank you&#8217; and &#8216;shadddap!&#8217;) and if someone missed an easy chance he would go into mock crying, Abreu being a regular target.<br />
But I gather he&#8217;s not such a nice personality either, and is hated by many Argentines.<br />
Is the English speaking journalist Marcela Araujo his daughter? </p>
<p>When I was in my teens, in between Screensport coverage I used to improve my Spanish by listening to Radio Nacional on shortwave, with Gustavo Vergara and Mario Trucco. I think Vergara is still commentating on radio?</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Seba. I must admitI love the way he changes &quot;gooool&quot; to &quot;goooAAAAAAAA&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Seba. I must admitI love the way he changes &#8220;gooool&#8221; to &#8220;goooAAAAAAAA&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Closs is my favorite commentator. Cheesy, I suppose, and over the top, but I eat it up. Can you imagine him doing an EPL match ? Rooneyaaaaaaa-GAAAAALLLLL !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closs is my favorite commentator. Cheesy, I suppose, and over the top, but I eat it up. Can you imagine him doing an EPL match ? Rooneyaaaaaaa-GAAAAALLLLL !!</p>
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		<title>By: Seba</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin...it&#039;s Mariano Closs, aka Marianitaaaaaa (for his tendency to change the words that end with an &quot;o&quot; and finish them with an &quot;a&quot;. For example: &quot;Montenegraaaa&quot;. Or even &quot;GOL&quot;. He says: &quot;GAAAAL!&quot;). Hahaha!

Apart from that, he is probably one of the best in the business in terms of identifying every player at first sight and in terms of reading the game. 

I don&#039;t like his personality, but over the years I&#039;ve learned to enjoy his commentaries -barring the never-ending &quot;aaaaa&quot;-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin&#8230;it&#8217;s Mariano Closs, aka Marianitaaaaaa (for his tendency to change the words that end with an &#8220;o&#8221; and finish them with an &#8220;a&#8221;. For example: &#8220;Montenegraaaa&#8221;. Or even &#8220;GOL&#8221;. He says: &#8220;GAAAAL!&#8221;). Hahaha!</p>
<p>Apart from that, he is probably one of the best in the business in terms of identifying every player at first sight and in terms of reading the game. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like his personality, but over the years I&#8217;ve learned to enjoy his commentaries -barring the never-ending &#8220;aaaaa&#8221;-.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having said that the rat-catchers are the team of my heart, I must also admit  that the honest part of my heart agrees with what my eyes tell it: Pavlovich&#039;s shot was over the line, and the true result should have been 2-1 for the home side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having said that the rat-catchers are the team of my heart, I must also admit  that the honest part of my heart agrees with what my eyes tell it: Pavlovich&#8217;s shot was over the line, and the true result should have been 2-1 for the home side.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silly question, but I&#039;ve forgotten the name of the commentator?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly question, but I&#8217;ve forgotten the name of the commentator?</p>
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