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	<title>Comments on: Argentines Abroad: 10th &amp; 11th Jan 2009</title>
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	<description>More fútbol argentino than you can shake a mullet at</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2009/01/13/argentines-abroad-10th-11th-jan-2009/#comment-3245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as I&#039;m aware Maradona loves Tevez. I really can&#039;t see him being left out of any squads in the short-term future. Whether Tevez stays at United beyond the summer though is another matter entirely. I think he might leave but to where? Who is going to want to pay Joorabchian the extortionate fee he is demanding?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I&#8217;m aware Maradona loves Tevez. I really can&#8217;t see him being left out of any squads in the short-term future. Whether Tevez stays at United beyond the summer though is another matter entirely. I think he might leave but to where? Who is going to want to pay Joorabchian the extortionate fee he is demanding?</p>
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		<title>By: Seba</title>
		<link>http://hastaelgolsiempre.com/2009/01/13/argentines-abroad-10th-11th-jan-2009/#comment-3243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read the interview with El Turco and it&#039;s quite revealing. He admits he had troubles with drugs and was addicted to cocaine. 

He tells the story of how he managed to heal and now is helping young kids with drug problems to rehab.

Good luck to him and a big thank you for the memories!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the interview with El Turco and it&#8217;s quite revealing. He admits he had troubles with drugs and was addicted to cocaine. </p>
<p>He tells the story of how he managed to heal and now is helping young kids with drug problems to rehab.</p>
<p>Good luck to him and a big thank you for the memories!</p>
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		<title>By: Seba</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off topic. I just saw an article about Matt Gilbert&#039;s hero and the reason why he became a Racing fan: El Turco García!

I thought I&#039;d paste him the link: 

http:  //   www   .ole.clarin.com/notas/2009/01/13/
futbollocal/01838487.  html

I&#039;m adding spaces just in case the comment doesn&#039;t make it through. 

I&#039;m not translating the article, but the headline says: &quot;Someday I&#039;ll manage Racing or Huracán&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic. I just saw an article about Matt Gilbert&#8217;s hero and the reason why he became a Racing fan: El Turco García!</p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d paste him the link: </p>
<p>http:  //   www   .ole.clarin.com/notas/2009/01/13/<br />
futbollocal/01838487.  html</p>
<p>I&#8217;m adding spaces just in case the comment doesn&#8217;t make it through. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not translating the article, but the headline says: &#8220;Someday I&#8217;ll manage Racing or Huracán&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam--

Small correction, to (try to) clarify a bit the somewhat mystifying Mexican Libertadores qualification protocol alluded to above.

As I said, Mexico 1 will be San Luis--the superlider (overall leader of the standings, though later eliminated in the Liguilla--another complication!) of the Apertura 08 campaign (not the Clausura, as I said above).  That will bring the very skillful striker Alfredo &quot;Chango&quot; Moreno (now over to SL from club America) into the competition--good news for all Copa aficionados.

Mexico 2, as I&#039;ve said, will be Chivas.  They will go into a group that includes Lanus.  Which could make for some interesting group stage matches there.

And Mexico 3 will be Pachuca.  Which brings Pachuca&#039;s formidable veteran Argentine contingent--Gimenez, Alvarez et al.-- into the tournament.  Again, good news for the competition. 

 (Hope this sorts things out a bit.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam&#8211;</p>
<p>Small correction, to (try to) clarify a bit the somewhat mystifying Mexican Libertadores qualification protocol alluded to above.</p>
<p>As I said, Mexico 1 will be San Luis&#8211;the superlider (overall leader of the standings, though later eliminated in the Liguilla&#8211;another complication!) of the Apertura 08 campaign (not the Clausura, as I said above).  That will bring the very skillful striker Alfredo &#8220;Chango&#8221; Moreno (now over to SL from club America) into the competition&#8211;good news for all Copa aficionados.</p>
<p>Mexico 2, as I&#8217;ve said, will be Chivas.  They will go into a group that includes Lanus.  Which could make for some interesting group stage matches there.</p>
<p>And Mexico 3 will be Pachuca.  Which brings Pachuca&#8217;s formidable veteran Argentine contingent&#8211;Gimenez, Alvarez et al.&#8211; into the tournament.  Again, good news for the competition. </p>
<p> (Hope this sorts things out a bit.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam,

As you&#039;ve broached the subject of Argentine doings in the Mexican Interliga, from my report last week, you&#039;d probably want to follow that line of news through to completion.  I&#039;ve posted you two more reports since then, but obviously these didn&#039;t reach you in time.  Here, for you and your faithful readership, they are:

Jan. 11

To add to my earlier post, for your AA on Tuesday:

Yesterday (Sunday) in the finals of the Mexican Interliga, Chivas (over Morelia) and Pachuca (over Atlas) went through, to become the Mexico 2 and Mexico 3 teams in the Copa Libertadores.    (Mexico 1 is the Clausura superlider  San Luis.)  Both very exciting games finally turning on penalties.  The Argentine angle was provided by Christian &quot;Chaco &quot; Gimenez scoring Pachuca&#039;s crucial third (it ended 3-3 after 90, Atlas, with Marioni battling up front,  making a great game of it by scoring three times late, then going down to four saved penalties by Pachuca&#039;s Colombian keeper Miguel Calero).
____________________________________

Jan 12

It&#039;s about now you&#039;re doing your AA report. And it&#039;s been bothering me all night there&#039;s one thing forgot to tell you re. Mexican AA news.  Kept me awake all night--that and a terrific windstorm blowing around the rocks that hold down the tattered tarpaulins that constitute our decaying roof.

There is now one less influential Argentine player in Mexico--at Santos Laguna, where the Argentines Vicente Matias Vuoso and Daniel Emmanuel Luduena have been essential figures for several years now.  Both of them are still there. But now neither of them is any longer Argentine.  You&#039;ll recall that Vuoso was &quot;nacionalized&quot; as a Mexican citizen last year (and even, to the dismay of some, was selected by Sven for the national squad).  Now Luduena--the ex-River man whose great performance, including the winning goal in the gran final, was so important to  Santos&#039; 08 Clausura championship--has done the same.

This is big news in Mexico.  Perhaps less so in Argentina, where Luduena may not be as well remembered as he ought to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>As you&#8217;ve broached the subject of Argentine doings in the Mexican Interliga, from my report last week, you&#8217;d probably want to follow that line of news through to completion.  I&#8217;ve posted you two more reports since then, but obviously these didn&#8217;t reach you in time.  Here, for you and your faithful readership, they are:</p>
<p>Jan. 11</p>
<p>To add to my earlier post, for your AA on Tuesday:</p>
<p>Yesterday (Sunday) in the finals of the Mexican Interliga, Chivas (over Morelia) and Pachuca (over Atlas) went through, to become the Mexico 2 and Mexico 3 teams in the Copa Libertadores.    (Mexico 1 is the Clausura superlider  San Luis.)  Both very exciting games finally turning on penalties.  The Argentine angle was provided by Christian &#8220;Chaco &#8221; Gimenez scoring Pachuca&#8217;s crucial third (it ended 3-3 after 90, Atlas, with Marioni battling up front,  making a great game of it by scoring three times late, then going down to four saved penalties by Pachuca&#8217;s Colombian keeper Miguel Calero).<br />
____________________________________</p>
<p>Jan 12</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about now you&#8217;re doing your AA report. And it&#8217;s been bothering me all night there&#8217;s one thing forgot to tell you re. Mexican AA news.  Kept me awake all night&#8211;that and a terrific windstorm blowing around the rocks that hold down the tattered tarpaulins that constitute our decaying roof.</p>
<p>There is now one less influential Argentine player in Mexico&#8211;at Santos Laguna, where the Argentines Vicente Matias Vuoso and Daniel Emmanuel Luduena have been essential figures for several years now.  Both of them are still there. But now neither of them is any longer Argentine.  You&#8217;ll recall that Vuoso was &#8220;nacionalized&#8221; as a Mexican citizen last year (and even, to the dismay of some, was selected by Sven for the national squad).  Now Luduena&#8211;the ex-River man whose great performance, including the winning goal in the gran final, was so important to  Santos&#8217; 08 Clausura championship&#8211;has done the same.</p>
<p>This is big news in Mexico.  Perhaps less so in Argentina, where Luduena may not be as well remembered as he ought to be.</p>
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