Comments on: 2011 Copa América organisation gets underway

By: Johnny

Johnny — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:29:18 +0000

Hey Seba-I read somewhere where none of the matches were scheduled for Buenos Aires. I think I read that in the Buenos Aires Herald. That said, they can be pretty unreliable.

By: Matthew Gilbert

Matthew Gilbert — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:29:05 +0000

I know I disagreed with you about the short tournaments, and I think they do provide more excitement – Vélez v Huracán will be immense from a football point of view, though a nightmare on security – I do feel sorry for Lanús, who have consistently played attractive football all season, not like Huracán who’ve played it for eight weeks.
And yet they win nothing, apart from a place in the Copa Sudamericana which they don’t need to win anyway, they already have a Conmebol.

ALWAYS agreed with you about the stupid promedios. I would’ have *loved* to see that league table this season, I would have laughed so hard if Independiente had gone down bottom.

By: Seba

Seba — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:50:55 +0000

The question should be, Johnny:

How many pesos is Grondona getting to decide the Estadio Unico de La Plata will be the main venue?

I can’t see a Copa America taking place in Argentina with absolutely no matches played in the city of Buenos Aires.

I can’t.

By: Johnny

Johnny — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:02:10 +0000

Why aren’t ANY of the Copa matches scheduled to be played in Buenos Aires ? Strange, no ?

By: Seba

Seba — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:18:12 +0000

A little ‘correction’, Sam. Independiente is another Grondona’s pet club (he was their president in the past).

So there you go. They get to start preparing for next season (which will start the weekend of the 16th of August) one week earlier than all the other teams.

By the way…how on Earth will Grondona ever get rid of the promedios if they are saving none other than Independiente this season.

Ever asked yourself what the cumulative (Apertura + Clausura) league standings would look like (apart from the fact that Lanús would have been the champions with a good 9-point cushion over Velez?).

Here’s the bottom 6 (all of them would be risking relegation or promoción).

River Plate 41 pts
Rosario Central 40
San Martin (T) 40
Argentinos Jrs. 38 (-11 goal difference)
Gimnasia (J) 38 (-19)
INDEPENDIENTE 38 (-22)

Pathetic, really!

Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata get to the final game of the season risking automatic relegation when they sit comfortably in mid-table with 52 points (12 wins, 16 draws, 9 losses).

Only 6 points behind Huracán in that table.

Since there aren’t websites in which you can find what would be the proper league standings (long tournament), here it is.

Lanus 72
Velez 63
San Lorenzo 60
Tigre 59
Boca 58
Huracan 58
Colon 57
Estudiantes 54
Newells 52
Gimnasia 52
Racing 49
Banfield 46
Godoy Cruz 46
Arsenal 45
River Plate 41 pts
Rosario Central 40
San Martin (T) 40
Argentinos Jrs. 38 (-11 goal difference)
Gimnasia (J) 38 (-19)
Independiente 38 (-22)